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. >> commissioner borden? >> here. >> commissioner moore? >> here. >> commissioner sugaya? >> here. >> first up, commissioners, on your calendar, consideration of items proposed for continuance, item 1, case no. 2012.1442c for 795 folsom street, request for conditional use authorization is being proposed for continuance to february 28th, 2013. i have no other items proposed for continuance and i have no speaker cards. >> is there any public comment on the one item proposed for continuance? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners? commissioner sugaya. >> move to continue item number 1 to february 28th. >> second. >> on that motion to continue 795 folsom to february 28th, commissioner antonini? >> aye. >> commissioner borden? >> aye. >> commissioner hillis? excuse me, commissioner moore? >> aye. >> commissioner sugaya? >> here -- i mean, yes, aye. [laughter] >> commissioner wu? >> aye. >> and commission president fong? >> aye. >> so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to 0 and placed you under your consent calendar. all matters listed hereunder
. >> commissioner borden? >> here. >> commissioner moore? >> here. >> commissioner sugaya? >> here. >> first up, commissioners, on your calendar, consideration of items proposed for continuance, item 1, case no. 2012.1442c for 795 folsom street, request for conditional use authorization is being proposed for continuance to february 28th, 2013. i have no other items proposed for continuance and i have no speaker cards. >> is there any public...
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commissioner borden. >> i'm very supportive. i think this makes a lot of sense. i was just wondering if we thought also, larger i know in the past the issue around medical use both related to ucsf and cpmc and now it looks like both are leaving that immediate neighborhood. there might be a desire to look at a larger conversation in general about the uses along sacramento street. i imagine this will be less of an issue in the future. i don't know if that's something that the supervisors are starting to look at generally, but i know that ucsf put that property on the block which is on california street and then cpmc's plan are to close down the existing hospital and facilities they have there. >> thank you, commissioner borden. of course, it's something that we're looking at. i don't know how it's going to affect the ncd at this time, but we're involved in both those processes with ucsf and cpmc. so, we'll keep that in mind, thank you. >> great. in term of the zoning for anne marie, it's not restrictive -- for the medical uses already there, if they should leave, i
commissioner borden. >> i'm very supportive. i think this makes a lot of sense. i was just wondering if we thought also, larger i know in the past the issue around medical use both related to ucsf and cpmc and now it looks like both are leaving that immediate neighborhood. there might be a desire to look at a larger conversation in general about the uses along sacramento street. i imagine this will be less of an issue in the future. i don't know if that's something that the supervisors...
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. >> commissioner borden? >> aye. >> commissioner moore? >> aye. >> commissioner sugaya? >> aye. >> commissioner wu? >> aye. >> and commission president fong? >> aye. >> so moved, commissioners that motion passes unanimously and places you under item 5, commission comments and questions. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah, i'd like to ask that we adjourn today in memory of lou spadia. i'd like to say a few words about mr. spadia because i think there are some great life lessons here for those of you who did not know who he was or did not see the obituary in the chronicle or examiner. lou was a native san franciscan, raised in potrero hill. and like was the case with my father, didn't learn english till he went to elementary school. i'm not sure which school it was but it was somewhere in san francisco. i'm not sure if it was the case for lou also, but my father got to do the first grade twice because the nunns wanted to make sure he was fluent in english before he advanced. i think it served him well through the rest of his life. in fact, he gave them a considerable sum wh
. >> commissioner borden? >> aye. >> commissioner moore? >> aye. >> commissioner sugaya? >> aye. >> commissioner wu? >> aye. >> and commission president fong? >> aye. >> so moved, commissioners that motion passes unanimously and places you under item 5, commission comments and questions. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah, i'd like to ask that we adjourn today in memory of lou spadia. i'd like to say a few words about...
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it is like setting a dial. >>: mission commissioner borden. >> commissioner borden: you mentioned that permits go with the person. how does that work? if i own a business called borden and antonini, is it under my name or i can open up a new business and call it city hall ventures. my point is that if people on multiple businesses, is assigned to the person of the business name? if so people permit history on venues that these people own? how do you do that? >>: number one all of about. sole proprietors; you own one place, family-owned businesses, llc, big corporations, hotels where management is listed. it is across the board. the bottom line is if there is a change that is substantial, changing from a biker bar to a karaoke bar, it is not a content issue. we are concerned about the new owner. how does he do things? >> commissioner borden: i am not concerned about the venue as much as saying i have a venue on van ness and another on hayes. i operate the one on van ness really poorly but the one on hayes really well. good actor/bad actor conversation. the question in conditional use ho
it is like setting a dial. >>: mission commissioner borden. >> commissioner borden: you mentioned that permits go with the person. how does that work? if i own a business called borden and antonini, is it under my name or i can open up a new business and call it city hall ventures. my point is that if people on multiple businesses, is assigned to the person of the business name? if so people permit history on venues that these people own? how do you do that? >>: number one all...
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thank you. >> commissioner borden? >> hi, i happen to go by two interesting events, one of which was sf hon dough at the corner of innis had a reopening event, it was a family that had that facility for more than 40 years, so they modernized it and hon dough is making a great investment of them being an anchor and them staying in the neighborhood, it was nice to see a community benefits district and a civic center, different merchants from around the city to work with this business that had a lot of support throughout the immediate community and the family, they were part of such a community and one of the local restaurants had provided the food and the wine for the event, it's nice that a family owned business that's been around for a long time is investing back to the community, as many of all you know, they need 34 million dollars to complete their project, they were at 33 million dollars and are in the process of trying to raise their final million dollars to make their project happen. they really need to make that
thank you. >> commissioner borden? >> hi, i happen to go by two interesting events, one of which was sf hon dough at the corner of innis had a reopening event, it was a family that had that facility for more than 40 years, so they modernized it and hon dough is making a great investment of them being an anchor and them staying in the neighborhood, it was nice to see a community benefits district and a civic center, different merchants from around the city to work with this business...
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of historic preservation and planning commission representatives, in attendance were commissioners borden and moore and i'll ask for their comments when i'm done giving you an overview of what happened because this is a potential action item for the commission. i had a report from dhr which was led by shawn sher born and it consisted of three different thing, he gave us a timetable as to the selection, he gave us the job announcement which is to be issued tomorrow on the 1st of september which will be a matter of public record when it's issued and then he described the battery management test that candidates will be -- some of the candidates will be asked to complete and there's also going to be a supplemental questionnaire and these were questioned with input from subject matter expert who happens to be our previous secretary linda avery which i think is a good person to have input on these matters. and in terms of the timetable, the job announcement is going to be posted for a period of 45 days from the 1st of september to march 15th, between march 18th and this is a projected calendar,
of historic preservation and planning commission representatives, in attendance were commissioners borden and moore and i'll ask for their comments when i'm done giving you an overview of what happened because this is a potential action item for the commission. i had a report from dhr which was led by shawn sher born and it consisted of three different thing, he gave us a timetable as to the selection, he gave us the job announcement which is to be issued tomorrow on the 1st of september which...
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thank you. >> president fong: commissioner borden. >> commissioner borden: thank you for the explanation. sometime people say that other peoples property will be impacted but that is beyond the scope of our jurisdiction. with the addendum to the eir, what we are looking at as sud more than anything not looking at all the other issues i feel comfortable moving forward next week with the bigger issue, conditional use necessary and desirable the central subway project where these machines can go. that is an important initiative not just for this commission to consider but for the city at large. >> president fong: commissioner sugaya. >> commissioner sugaya: mr. chu, could you provide information on the nepa process, when do you expect it to be completed? >>: that process is underway and both the planning department, mta and city attorney are in touch with all the relevant agencies such as ship and nesta the process is to be completed before any demolition occurs at 1741 powell. i have no indication from individual staff working on the project that that would not occur this time. >>: to your
thank you. >> president fong: commissioner borden. >> commissioner borden: thank you for the explanation. sometime people say that other peoples property will be impacted but that is beyond the scope of our jurisdiction. with the addendum to the eir, what we are looking at as sud more than anything not looking at all the other issues i feel comfortable moving forward next week with the bigger issue, conditional use necessary and desirable the central subway project where these...
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commissioner borden. >> commissioner borden: i've been to pa'ina loung. the food is great, the entertainment is great. i've been to kabuki also, it's great. we really want to be able to support all the businesses but we need the support all businesses. there needs to be a sound study, a couple of different determinations. seeing it would level the sound bleeds; turning it up to see a what point it bleeds, gives us a base line. also having one sound report. i am not a sound expert. i do know what is too loud. we want to support pa'ina loung and all existing businesses; we don't want to support pa'ina at the expense of the ot her businesses especially when you had a citation not to long ago. we need to get to the bottom of the soundproofing issue before we can move to the next step. what you are hearing is the desire to support the pa'ina loung but figure out a way to support it while protecting the other businesses. i don't know how we can direct that the study happens. that is something that maybe staff can help us on. in the past we have required to the
commissioner borden. >> commissioner borden: i've been to pa'ina loung. the food is great, the entertainment is great. i've been to kabuki also, it's great. we really want to be able to support all the businesses but we need the support all businesses. there needs to be a sound study, a couple of different determinations. seeing it would level the sound bleeds; turning it up to see a what point it bleeds, gives us a base line. also having one sound report. i am not a sound expert. i do...
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. >> commissioner borden. >> aye. >> commissioner moore. >> yes. >> that passes 5-0. next up is the consent calendar. all items are considered to be routine for the planning commission and acted upon a single roll call vote for the commission. there is no separate discussion unless the public or staff requests and the item is removed from the consent calendar and considered as a separate item for now or a neurohearing. case four at 225 30th street request for conditional use authorization. case five at 795 folsom street request for conditional use authorization and six for 3221 20th street and request for conditional use authorization and case seven at 975 bryant street. just to clarify item seven for 975 bryant street was considered on february 14, 2013 and following testimony the commission continued the matter to this date. the motion for today under concept is for disapproval. commissioners i think there is interest to pull a couple of items off of consent. >> is there any public comment for the items on the consent calendar? do you want to come up up? >> yes, i w
. >> commissioner borden. >> aye. >> commissioner moore. >> yes. >> that passes 5-0. next up is the consent calendar. all items are considered to be routine for the planning commission and acted upon a single roll call vote for the commission. there is no separate discussion unless the public or staff requests and the item is removed from the consent calendar and considered as a separate item for now or a neurohearing. case four at 225 30th street request for...
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. >> commissioner borden? >> well, i'm very sympathetic to the project sponsor and the desire just to move a few blocks away. i am concerned because in this area, there are safeway, wells fargo, panda express, subway sandwiches, starbucks, unfortunately it's like a glut of forual retail and it's across from mcdonalds and i understand there are some issues with the police around that area. and so i don't think that someplace where people can actually sit down and eat would help that situation that already exists with people kind of standing around and engaging in activities that, perhaps, they shouldn't be. so that is one of the reasons. the other reason is the concentration of formula retail. it's been such a long journey in trying to revitalize the lower fillmore. and create kind of this vibrant, arts and cultural jazz district, which never really quite came to fruition. there was always hope and promise, once we got beyond redevelopment we got to a place we were having more locally-owned businesses. i'm sad
. >> commissioner borden? >> well, i'm very sympathetic to the project sponsor and the desire just to move a few blocks away. i am concerned because in this area, there are safeway, wells fargo, panda express, subway sandwiches, starbucks, unfortunately it's like a glut of forual retail and it's across from mcdonalds and i understand there are some issues with the police around that area. and so i don't think that someplace where people can actually sit down and eat would help that...
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public comment is closed. >>: one correction. >>: commissioner borden. >> commissioner borden: if you have any sort of, ms. duffy, any sort of interference at&t can get readings from your home. if there is a new sort of radio frequency. our purview is in the planning and aesthetic issues. this is an area where we learned that because of interesting topography in san francisco antennas are needed every couple of blocks. cell phone networks were built in a way anticipating people using their cell phones outdoors not indoors. in terms of health issues the health department would be the place to go for that. at our level of review, there were other sites and most were worse preference sites. the antennas are 56 feet above. i moved to approve. >>: second. >> commissioner sugaya: on the motion and second to approve. >>: >> commissioner borden: >> commissioner sugaya: aye >> commissioner wu: aye >> commissioner hillis: aye >>: on that the motion passes 5-0. >>: the proposal before you is conditional use permit for 1520 stockton street, on the east side near green st., and columbus avenue. co
public comment is closed. >>: one correction. >>: commissioner borden. >> commissioner borden: if you have any sort of, ms. duffy, any sort of interference at&t can get readings from your home. if there is a new sort of radio frequency. our purview is in the planning and aesthetic issues. this is an area where we learned that because of interesting topography in san francisco antennas are needed every couple of blocks. cell phone networks were built in a way anticipating...
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commissioner borden? >> here. >> commissioner hillis? >> here. >> commissioner moore 1234 >> here. >> and commissioner sugaya? >> here. >> commissioners, first up for consideration of items proposed for continuance, item 1, south side between howard and folsom streets; lot 125 and 126 in assessor's block 3735 - mandatory discretionary review, pursuant to planning code section 317 (e), of building permit application no. 2012.11.21.4720, proposing to merge units 1202 (lot 125) and 1203 (lot 126) in an existing 91 unit building within the c-3-o (sd) (downtown commercial, downtown office special development) zoning district and 320-i height and bulk district proposed for continuance to march 21st, 2013. * case no. 2011.0800c, 601 van ness avenue >> is there any public comment on the one item proposed for continuance? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner borden? >> continue item 1 to the date on the calendar. >> second. >> on that motion to continue item 1 to march 21st, commissioner antonini? >
commissioner borden? >> here. >> commissioner hillis? >> here. >> commissioner moore 1234 >> here. >> and commissioner sugaya? >> here. >> commissioners, first up for consideration of items proposed for continuance, item 1, south side between howard and folsom streets; lot 125 and 126 in assessor's block 3735 - mandatory discretionary review, pursuant to planning code section 317 (e), of building permit application no. 2012.11.21.4720, proposing...
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. >>: on that motion: >> commissioner antonini: aye >> commissioner borden: aye >> commissioner hillis: aye >> commissioner moore: aye >> commissioner sugaya: aye >> commissioner wu: >> president fong: aye it passes unanimously, 7-0. we do have a member of the entertainment commission here, for item 13, entertainment procedures and processes. >>: whenever you're ready? >>: good afternoon everyone my name is nicholas king, i'm here to give a brief presentation. this is an overview of what-- responsible for, and excessive noise prevention and enforcement. the epidemic commission regulates entertainment and nightlife in san francisco generally. will begin with basic definitions and underpinnings of our permits. i'll get to the handouts and described them. the commission issues many types of permits. today we will focus on -- we will get the conditions of the way to be on the same page. the first amendment of the constitution, its equivalent sections in the california section. people are guaranteed the right to gather for peaceful and lawful purposes. it is a guarantee in any attempts by u
. >>: on that motion: >> commissioner antonini: aye >> commissioner borden: aye >> commissioner hillis: aye >> commissioner moore: aye >> commissioner sugaya: aye >> commissioner wu: >> president fong: aye it passes unanimously, 7-0. we do have a member of the entertainment commission here, for item 13, entertainment procedures and processes. >>: whenever you're ready? >>: good afternoon everyone my name is nicholas king, i'm here to...
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. >> commissioner borden? >> i don't want to belabor the point. i think putting an hour limit on the deck is not very enforceable. so i mean, i think it creates a nuisance for the castro country club to do that. i don't think it's their intent to be partying on the deck. that is the only thing i would say. i respect that i don't want them disrupting the neighbors, but it's hard to keep track of. >> public comment is already closed. commissioner hillis? >> just two questions. one second floor, what could that be used for with the country club? >> the variety of uses in the castro street neighborhood district would be allowed on the second level, retail sales, financial service with a conditional use and medical service. >> so restaurant-type use? >> a restaurant would not be allowed on the second level in the castro neighborhood commercial district, no. >> do you want to respond? do you use this space outside now at 10:00 at night? would it be a hardship? >> currently our hours are until 11:00 monday through thursday, until midnight friday and satu
. >> commissioner borden? >> i don't want to belabor the point. i think putting an hour limit on the deck is not very enforceable. so i mean, i think it creates a nuisance for the castro country club to do that. i don't think it's their intent to be partying on the deck. that is the only thing i would say. i respect that i don't want them disrupting the neighbors, but it's hard to keep track of. >> public comment is already closed. commissioner hillis? >> just two...
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thank you. >> commissioner borden? >> hi, i happen to go by two interesting events, one of which was sf hon dough at the corner of innis had a reopening event, it was a family that had that facility for more than 40 years, so they modernized it and hon dough is making a great investment of them being an anchor and them staying in the neighborhood, it was nice to see a community benefits district and a civic center, different merchants from around the city to work with this businesat
thank you. >> commissioner borden? >> hi, i happen to go by two interesting events, one of which was sf hon dough at the corner of innis had a reopening event, it was a family that had that facility for more than 40 years, so they modernized it and hon dough is making a great investment of them being an anchor and them staying in the neighborhood, it was nice to see a community benefits district and a civic center, different merchants from around the city to work with this businesat
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. >> commissioner borden: the reviews are very positive. we understand they are changing dynamics in the market. we would like to see a bookstore to remain as barnes & noble and borders have found in the era of kindles and ipads, bookstores are not as viable. i think one day they will be retro, not today. it sounds like from the letters that he runs his business with his family well and i moved to approve with conditions. >>: the support of all the restaurant owners and business owners in the area as well as an overwhelming number of residents who have signed the petition makes a lot of sense. it makes it viable and allows them to continue. i am supportive. >> commissioner sugaya: the staff that this is already an eating establishment and does not increase the number of eating establishments. but it is not an eating establishment. we approved an accessory use to a bookstore with limited seating. how the staff can find that this place is not in violation is beyond me. all you have to do is look at the repairs packet and the photos. there is
. >> commissioner borden: the reviews are very positive. we understand they are changing dynamics in the market. we would like to see a bookstore to remain as barnes & noble and borders have found in the era of kindles and ipads, bookstores are not as viable. i think one day they will be retro, not today. it sounds like from the letters that he runs his business with his family well and i moved to approve with conditions. >>: the support of all the restaurant owners and business...
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. >> commissioner borden: all the paperwork that you provided us, i think what might be helpful for the future, having a lot of people maybe we can get in advance; it may be helpful to show the financial differential between the 12 percent and 15 percent so we have visualization in our minds what financially that means. in general we have always had this conversation about what is a cost to provide a below market rate unit. i don't know that we necessarily know what that cost is. you have always been an advocate for affordable housing. everyone understands why it is necessary and desirable to have this housing project versus an office project. is a great adaptive reuse. i regret that i was not here in the original hearing i'm happy to be part of the secondary hearing, the type of project that we would want to be supporting, especially since it looks like you have a financing in the opportunity to move forward so we will see at least 48 units of below market rat eunits moving forward. i know that the building since it's vacant not as much foot traffic. a friend was mugged in front of tha
. >> commissioner borden: all the paperwork that you provided us, i think what might be helpful for the future, having a lot of people maybe we can get in advance; it may be helpful to show the financial differential between the 12 percent and 15 percent so we have visualization in our minds what financially that means. in general we have always had this conversation about what is a cost to provide a below market rate unit. i don't know that we necessarily know what that cost is. you have...
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i agree with much of what commissioner borden said. i think when you boil this down, we can redebate the central subway project every time we have a station project before. so, whatever the item. but when you're boring it down, it seems to me like we're vastly improving the condition upon removing these machines for folks at north beach whether they're residents or businesses instead of doing it on columbus avenue, we're now doing it on the pagoda site, which i imagine will be less impactful or a lot less impactful than doing it in the street. we've got a project that's pretty much identical to the project we approved, but probably has more opportunity and more feasibility to be built. and i agree with ms. christiansen, i hope this leads to more debate about than it is here, extending the subway to north beach and onto fisherman's wharf. so, i guess the only question i have is something mr. bruno raised about could we impact or could we reduce the impact on the neighborhood even more by moving the machines to the side, you know, under
i agree with much of what commissioner borden said. i think when you boil this down, we can redebate the central subway project every time we have a station project before. so, whatever the item. but when you're boring it down, it seems to me like we're vastly improving the condition upon removing these machines for folks at north beach whether they're residents or businesses instead of doing it on columbus avenue, we're now doing it on the pagoda site, which i imagine will be less impactful or...
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. >> commissioner borden. >> yeah, [speaker not understood]. i don't have an issue with the office allocation. i do think the five story buildings look like parking garages. they're not very -- they're just kind of large, square -- the five story one, kind of podium buildings that connect larger buildings just seem -- they're not -- they need to be broken up a little bit. they feel like giant boxes kind of dropped next to the more, i guess the more visually interesting taller buildings. so, maybe just -- i'm not an architect and other people can probably better suggest modulation. but doing something with those buildings in particular to make them more inviting. i mean, and looking at the ground floor doesn't look like -- there aren't awnings and signs on them yet. it doesn't look inviting for retail space. so, that's just something i'd think about, some design issues. but otherwise i think it's, you know, it fits in our guidelines of being a good project. >> commissioner moore. >> this is an extremely difficult site to build on. i regret that
. >> commissioner borden. >> yeah, [speaker not understood]. i don't have an issue with the office allocation. i do think the five story buildings look like parking garages. they're not very -- they're just kind of large, square -- the five story one, kind of podium buildings that connect larger buildings just seem -- they're not -- they need to be broken up a little bit. they feel like giant boxes kind of dropped next to the more, i guess the more visually interesting taller...
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commissioner borden. >> i share? concern about the lighting, but i don't think continuing the item -- we're able to deal -- signage is not part of our approval. i think, if i understand it, if they pull the permit for the signs and new legislation were in place, then that -- whatever legislation were in place at the time they pulled the permit would apply. so, i don't know that continuing the item would solve the problem. but second airly, i have a question about whether or not we have any -- if the department of health or anybody has anything in the books about light pollution because light pollution is a problem and some cities have regulatory standard around light pollution levels. i don't know if we have any. >> on the first point, yes, you're correct it would be the law of the day, the law that is in effect when the building permit is submitted for the signs that would govern those signs. in regards to the light pollution, off the top of my head, i don't have information on any requirements there regarding that
commissioner borden. >> i share? concern about the lighting, but i don't think continuing the item -- we're able to deal -- signage is not part of our approval. i think, if i understand it, if they pull the permit for the signs and new legislation were in place, then that -- whatever legislation were in place at the time they pulled the permit would apply. so, i don't know that continuing the item would solve the problem. but second airly, i have a question about whether or not we have...
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. >> borden? >> no. >> hillis in >> no. >> moore. >> no. >> sugaya. >> no. >> wu. >> no. >> and commissioner president fong. >> aye. >> that motion fails, commissioners, 2-5. >> if you would like we could take up the motion with the intent to disapprove. >> commissioner moore. >> i would like to restate the motion as previously stated. >> and intend to deny. >> the motion is an intent to disapprove. >> that is correct. >> commissioner antonini? >> no. >> commissioner borden in >> aye. >> commissioner hillis. >> aye. >> moore. >> aye. >> hillis. >> aye. >> wu. >> aye. >> fong. >> no. so moved, that passes 5--2. push >> commissioners, that will place you on your final regularly calendared item, number 1 1. the fiscal year, 2013 to 2015 department budget and work program. this is an action item. >> last, but not least, commissioners, john with the planning department and we are here to ask for your approval today on our 2013, to 15, proposed budget. and keith will make most of the presentation and i
. >> borden? >> no. >> hillis in >> no. >> moore. >> no. >> sugaya. >> no. >> wu. >> no. >> and commissioner president fong. >> aye. >> that motion fails, commissioners, 2-5. >> if you would like we could take up the motion with the intent to disapprove. >> commissioner moore. >> i would like to restate the motion as previously stated. >> and intend to deny. >> the motion is an intent to...
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commissioner borden? >> i think this is a great plan, it has a lot of interesting projects you're working on, can you talk about the food clusters work that you are getting grant funding for? i'm curious about it, does that include the food trucks, is that specific for food production? >> it's looking in general at the whole kind of food policy issues and we have a couple of grants, we have staff that is spending a quarter of her time to look at establishing a food policy for the city, so we're getting off the ground and defining it, but it's meant to be at the starting point a comprehensive point of how food is provided and grown and food deserts and all those issues in the city. >> i would like to have that brought to the commission, the same for the urban forest public education campaign, that sounds interesting. all of these are really interesting. i mean, i know we heard about some of the various programs, but to have an opportunity to hear a little bit about the work and how it's being scoped, i thi
commissioner borden? >> i think this is a great plan, it has a lot of interesting projects you're working on, can you talk about the food clusters work that you are getting grant funding for? i'm curious about it, does that include the food trucks, is that specific for food production? >> it's looking in general at the whole kind of food policy issues and we have a couple of grants, we have staff that is spending a quarter of her time to look at establishing a food policy for the...